Ok, the ouch doesn't sound good. I'm sending a bitmap (zipped) of a screenshot of the groups table. Does anything look out of order to you? I'm not sure what I"m looking for in the "initial_insert.sql" file. Is this the right track we're heading down to fix this problem?Here is the error I get when trying to add root as admin: Message: Need Permission!Ouch.I'm not sure if I renamed any groups. Could I find this out through phpmyadmin. If so what table do I look under and what groups should I verify are named correctly?Have a look into groups and compare to what comes from scripts/database/initial_insert.sql. hth, Robert Kehl