I discovered the issue. As we use FirstClass for our email server it doesn't integrate with Active Directory for Email data, which means none of our Email fields are populated. When I added the email fiend correctly tyo matcxh our email server for a pair of accounts it worked. I will script out a fill of this field from our email server DB and it should correct this issue. This does lead me to one question. How do I now login with admin credentials to setup the groups in question. I suspect the easiest way is to remove the config I just added and login as root@localhost as this ability goes away once the LDAP authentication is added. --- Vance Walsh Network and Systems Administrator Concord Academy - Concord, Mass.